Comments on: Friendfeed versus Techmeme: can't they just get along? http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/30/friendfeed-versus-techmeme-cant-they-just-get-along/ Web producer, writer, online media cultist. That's how I roll. Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:48:46 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Raw vs. Polished http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/30/friendfeed-versus-techmeme-cant-they-just-get-along/comment-page-1/#comment-999 Raw vs. Polished Fri, 02 May 2008 08:35:02 +0000 http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/30/friendfeed-versus-techmeme-cant-they-just-get-along/#comment-999 [...] Berlin writes about the differences between Friendfeed and TechMeme. Therefore, perhaps we can say that Techmeme aggregates what’s important about tech and Internet [...] [...] Berlin writes about the differences between Friendfeed and TechMeme. Therefore, perhaps we can say that Techmeme aggregates what’s important about tech and Internet [...]

]]> By: Eric Berlin http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/30/friendfeed-versus-techmeme-cant-they-just-get-along/comment-page-1/#comment-1325 Eric Berlin Thu, 01 May 2008 02:08:34 +0000 http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/30/friendfeed-versus-techmeme-cant-they-just-get-along/#comment-1325 Yeah, I think it would be fun if it was a service built inside of Friendfeed *and* happened to serve up non-tech stuff that you already get on any number of other services. I'm not sure that it would work, simply was musing that it would be kind of cool to see something like a shared Justin Timberlake track from Last.fm as the top story "cluster." Yeah, I think it would be fun if it was a service built inside of Friendfeed *and* happened to serve up non-tech stuff that you already get on any number of other services. I'm not sure that it would work, simply was musing that it would be kind of cool to see something like a shared Justin Timberlake track from Last.fm as the top story “cluster.”

]]> By: Eric Berlin http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/30/friendfeed-versus-techmeme-cant-they-just-get-along/comment-page-1/#comment-1329 Eric Berlin Thu, 01 May 2008 02:06:07 +0000 http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/30/friendfeed-versus-techmeme-cant-they-just-get-along/#comment-1329 Gabe, part of impetus for writing this piece was because I too was surprised that they were being compared and therefore felt motivated to look at the two side-by-side. <br><br>I enjoy twitter / FF because they're social / interactive experiences that also provide "deep" links from trusted folk, stuff that *might* be hot news that is ahead of Techmeme but is just as likely to be stories that Techmeme is not apt to cover for whatever reason. Gabe, part of impetus for writing this piece was because I too was surprised that they were being compared and therefore felt motivated to look at the two side-by-side.

I enjoy twitter / FF because they're social / interactive experiences that also provide “deep” links from trusted folk, stuff that *might* be hot news that is ahead of Techmeme but is just as likely to be stories that Techmeme is not apt to cover for whatever reason.

]]> By: GabeRivera http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/30/friendfeed-versus-techmeme-cant-they-just-get-along/comment-page-1/#comment-1326 GabeRivera Thu, 01 May 2008 01:21:00 +0000 http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/30/friendfeed-versus-techmeme-cant-they-just-get-along/#comment-1326 Louis, I set up a Techmeme bot in fact before turning off its updates. The old updates are here: <a href="http://friendfeed.com/techmeme" rel="nofollow">http://friendfeed.com/techmeme</a><br><br>I turned off updates because the results would overwhelm the FriendFeed search results for "Techmeme". Yes, I'm aware that's a bit selfish of me!<br><br>FriendFeed still doesn't offer a way to search "everyone" while excluding certain users, to my knowledge. If they ever do, I'll turn updates back on, since I'll then be able to search for "Techmeme" without results from the Techmeme account appearing. Louis, I set up a Techmeme bot in fact before turning off its updates. The old updates are here: http://friendfeed.com/techmeme

I turned off updates because the results would overwhelm the FriendFeed search results for “Techmeme”. Yes, I'm aware that's a bit selfish of me!

FriendFeed still doesn't offer a way to search “everyone” while excluding certain users, to my knowledge. If they ever do, I'll turn updates back on, since I'll then be able to search for “Techmeme” without results from the Techmeme account appearing.

]]> By: GabeRivera http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/30/friendfeed-versus-techmeme-cant-they-just-get-along/comment-page-1/#comment-1328 GabeRivera Thu, 01 May 2008 01:13:11 +0000 http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/30/friendfeed-versus-techmeme-cant-they-just-get-along/#comment-1328 To me the interesting question is why people make the comparison at all. I think it's because there will always be people to sit and sift through services like Twitter and FriendFeed all day, who love the "noise" and aren't easily overwhelmed. To them, Twitter/FF reports news "before" Techmeme, so they're "better". A similar argument can be made for using Google Reader with 500 subscriptions.<br><br>Obviously most people don't collect news that way most of the time. In fact, even the ones who do generally still use Techmeme anyway. To me the interesting question is why people make the comparison at all. I think it's because there will always be people to sit and sift through services like Twitter and FriendFeed all day, who love the “noise” and aren't easily overwhelmed. To them, Twitter/FF reports news “before” Techmeme, so they're “better”. A similar argument can be made for using Google Reader with 500 subscriptions.

Obviously most people don't collect news that way most of the time. In fact, even the ones who do generally still use Techmeme anyway.

]]> By: GraemeThickins http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/30/friendfeed-versus-techmeme-cant-they-just-get-along/comment-page-1/#comment-1327 GraemeThickins Thu, 01 May 2008 00:03:11 +0000 http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/30/friendfeed-versus-techmeme-cant-they-just-get-along/#comment-1327 agree - don't see them as competitors at all....<br>you're right, Louis: TechMeme updates on <br>FriendFeed would be very cool<br><br>bring it on, Gabe!<br><br>g agree – don't see them as competitors at all….
you're right, Louis: TechMeme updates on
FriendFeed would be very cool

bring it on, Gabe!

g

]]> By: Louis Gray http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/30/friendfeed-versus-techmeme-cant-they-just-get-along/comment-page-1/#comment-1324 Louis Gray Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:45:33 +0000 http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/30/friendfeed-versus-techmeme-cant-they-just-get-along/#comment-1324 Eric, the concept of a more "democratic" Techmeme is a fun one, until it starts to look like everything else. For example, RSSMeme and ReadBurner are (in theory) democratic ways to analyze shared items people find interesting, with each user being given one vote. But what happens, instead of finding new sources for information (Tech or otherwise), is that those sites with the highest RSS subscribers, or those most dialed in to item sharing and link aggregation, rise to the top. ReadBurner stats (<a href="http://www.readburner.com/stats.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.readburner.com/stats.php</a>) show Lifehacker, TechCrunch, Boing Boing, Gizmodo and Engadget as the top 5, all without an unknown algorithm. So... to take a Techmeme approach to FriendFeed might look a lot like that. Eric, the concept of a more “democratic” Techmeme is a fun one, until it starts to look like everything else. For example, RSSMeme and ReadBurner are (in theory) democratic ways to analyze shared items people find interesting, with each user being given one vote. But what happens, instead of finding new sources for information (Tech or otherwise), is that those sites with the highest RSS subscribers, or those most dialed in to item sharing and link aggregation, rise to the top. ReadBurner stats (http://www.readburner.com/stats.php) show Lifehacker, TechCrunch, Boing Boing, Gizmodo and Engadget as the top 5, all without an unknown algorithm. So… to take a Techmeme approach to FriendFeed might look a lot like that.

]]> By: Eric Berlin http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/30/friendfeed-versus-techmeme-cant-they-just-get-along/comment-page-1/#comment-1323 Eric Berlin Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:13:01 +0000 http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/30/friendfeed-versus-techmeme-cant-they-just-get-along/#comment-1323 Louis and Franklin - It would be pretty amazing to have a Techmeme-style site focused on the entire Friendfeed ecosystem. Would be pretty strange and amazing to see what would come out of that -- particularly if it ended up including a lot of stuff that wasn't tech: a good smattering of images and amazon recommendations and Last.fm music, that kind of thing. Louis and Franklin – It would be pretty amazing to have a Techmeme-style site focused on the entire Friendfeed ecosystem. Would be pretty strange and amazing to see what would come out of that — particularly if it ended up including a lot of stuff that wasn't tech: a good smattering of images and amazon recommendations and Last.fm music, that kind of thing.

]]> By: Franklin http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/30/friendfeed-versus-techmeme-cant-they-just-get-along/comment-page-1/#comment-1322 Franklin Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:06:18 +0000 http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/30/friendfeed-versus-techmeme-cant-they-just-get-along/#comment-1322 Louis, I have been using the <a href="http://ffapps.com/tabs/" rel="nofollow">FriendFeed Tabs</a> greasemonkey script by FriendFeed apps. It adds a techmeme tab to the FriendFeed site. It is the best of both worlds. :) Louis, I have been using the FriendFeed Tabs greasemonkey script by FriendFeed apps. It adds a techmeme tab to the FriendFeed site. It is the best of both worlds. :)

]]> By: Louis Gray http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/30/friendfeed-versus-techmeme-cant-they-just-get-along/comment-page-1/#comment-1321 Louis Gray Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:01:58 +0000 http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/30/friendfeed-versus-techmeme-cant-they-just-get-along/#comment-1321 FriendFeed and Techmeme are not competitors. In fact, TechMeme (as a bot) would be a great user on FriendFeed, offering updates throughout the day. While both sites could be a go-to for users to catch up on great information from many blogs at once, their goals are much different. FriendFeed and Techmeme are not competitors. In fact, TechMeme (as a bot) would be a great user on FriendFeed, offering updates throughout the day. While both sites could be a go-to for users to catch up on great information from many blogs at once, their goals are much different.

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