Comments on: An argument against Shyftr and communities built around full-text RSS feeds http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/12/an-argument-against-shyftr-and-communities-built-around-full-text-rss-feeds/ Web producer, writer, online media cultist. That's how I roll. Wed, 17 Mar 2010 05:52:08 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Heartburn Home Remedy http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/12/an-argument-against-shyftr-and-communities-built-around-full-text-rss-feeds/comment-page-1/#comment-939 Heartburn Home Remedy Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:58:48 +0000 http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/12/an-argument-against-shyftr-and-communities-built-around-full-text-rss-feeds/#comment-939 I follow your posts for quite a long time and must tell that your articles are always valuable to readers. I follow your posts for quite a long time and must tell that your articles are always valuable to readers.

]]> By: Jack http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/12/an-argument-against-shyftr-and-communities-built-around-full-text-rss-feeds/comment-page-1/#comment-936 Jack Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:11:24 +0000 http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/12/an-argument-against-shyftr-and-communities-built-around-full-text-rss-feeds/#comment-936 <strong>news groups baseball...</strong> Six Apart started a working group in February 2006 to improve the Trackback protocol with the goal to eventually have it approved as... news groups baseball…

Six Apart started a working group in February 2006 to improve the Trackback protocol with the goal to eventually have it approved as…

]]> By: Bridging the Blogging 1.0 and Blogging 2.0 divide ¦ Online Media Cultist http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/12/an-argument-against-shyftr-and-communities-built-around-full-text-rss-feeds/comment-page-1/#comment-926 Bridging the Blogging 1.0 and Blogging 2.0 divide ¦ Online Media Cultist Mon, 19 May 2008 14:28:59 +0000 http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/12/an-argument-against-shyftr-and-communities-built-around-full-text-rss-feeds/#comment-926 [...] But that self-interest should drive participation in these new social media platforms. As I’ve written in the past, that’s why I draw the line on services like Shyftr, which pull full text feeds from [...] [...] But that self-interest should drive participation in these new social media platforms. As I’ve written in the past, that’s why I draw the line on services like Shyftr, which pull full text feeds from [...]

]]> By: ReadBurner impressively creates community around Google Reader shared items ¦ Online Media Cultist http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/12/an-argument-against-shyftr-and-communities-built-around-full-text-rss-feeds/comment-page-1/#comment-937 ReadBurner impressively creates community around Google Reader shared items ¦ Online Media Cultist Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:26:15 +0000 http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/12/an-argument-against-shyftr-and-communities-built-around-full-text-rss-feeds/#comment-937 [...] An argument against Shyftr and communities built around full-text RSS feeds [...] [...] An argument against Shyftr and communities built around full-text RSS feeds [...]

]]> By: Uncontrolled Vocabulary #38 - Sandy Berman gone bad | Uncontrolled Vocabulary http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/12/an-argument-against-shyftr-and-communities-built-around-full-text-rss-feeds/comment-page-1/#comment-938 Uncontrolled Vocabulary #38 - Sandy Berman gone bad | Uncontrolled Vocabulary Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:31:24 +0000 http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/12/an-argument-against-shyftr-and-communities-built-around-full-text-rss-feeds/#comment-938 [...] Blogs May Be Rendered Obsolete by New Technology (Chronicle of Higher Education) An argument against Shyftr and communities built around full-text RSS feeds (Online Media [...] [...] Blogs May Be Rendered Obsolete by New Technology (Chronicle of Higher Education) An argument against Shyftr and communities built around full-text RSS feeds (Online Media [...]

]]> By: Fragmented Conversations and Blogging - PlagiarismToday http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/12/an-argument-against-shyftr-and-communities-built-around-full-text-rss-feeds/comment-page-1/#comment-930 Fragmented Conversations and Blogging - PlagiarismToday Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:04:47 +0000 http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/12/an-argument-against-shyftr-and-communities-built-around-full-text-rss-feeds/#comment-930 [...] including Eric Berlin, were very opposed to this while still others, including Louis Gray, saw this as a natural [...] [...] including Eric Berlin, were very opposed to this while still others, including Louis Gray, saw this as a natural [...]

]]> By: blogs are old skool? http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/12/an-argument-against-shyftr-and-communities-built-around-full-text-rss-feeds/comment-page-1/#comment-929 blogs are old skool? Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:42:04 +0000 http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/12/an-argument-against-shyftr-and-communities-built-around-full-text-rss-feeds/#comment-929 [...] Berlin, the Online Media Cultist, has some interesting things to say about Shyftr and its [...] [...] Berlin, the Online Media Cultist, has some interesting things to say about Shyftr and its [...]

]]> By: Eric Berlin http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/12/an-argument-against-shyftr-and-communities-built-around-full-text-rss-feeds/comment-page-1/#comment-932 Eric Berlin Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:58:57 +0000 http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/12/an-argument-against-shyftr-and-communities-built-around-full-text-rss-feeds/#comment-932 Keith, you bring up some interesting points but I circle back to the crucial differentiator for Shyftr: they pulled full text feeds and allowed commenting around that story without the involvement of the author. In effect Shyftr is acting like <b>the</b> publisher or an authorized republisher of original content. That makes it very different from simply displaying the title, link, and excerpt. Now, I agree, services like Digg and even Friendfeed are still strange to me: aggregators becoming places of community, and it raises larger questions of where "the conversations belong" and "who owns the conversations" and all that. But in some ways those conversations pull away from the basic fact that publishers deserve to be able to hold some ownership over the intellectual property they publish to their own online outlet. Keith, you bring up some interesting points but I circle back to the crucial differentiator for Shyftr: they pulled full text feeds and allowed commenting around that story without the involvement of the author. In effect Shyftr is acting like the publisher or an authorized republisher of original content. That makes it very different from simply displaying the title, link, and excerpt.

Now, I agree, services like Digg and even Friendfeed are still strange to me: aggregators becoming places of community, and it raises larger questions of where “the conversations belong” and “who owns the conversations” and all that. But in some ways those conversations pull away from the basic fact that publishers deserve to be able to hold some ownership over the intellectual property they publish to their own online outlet.

]]> By: The Shyftr Saga : The Blog Herald http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/12/an-argument-against-shyftr-and-communities-built-around-full-text-rss-feeds/comment-page-1/#comment-931 The Shyftr Saga : The Blog Herald Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:58:17 +0000 http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/12/an-argument-against-shyftr-and-communities-built-around-full-text-rss-feeds/#comment-931 [...] One of those who disagreed was copyright attorney Evan D. Brown who, in his post on the topic, cited both a 1990 case that dealt with the kinds of issues an implied license was designed for and and an earlier post by blogger Eric Berlin. [...] [...] One of those who disagreed was copyright attorney Evan D. Brown who, in his post on the topic, cited both a 1990 case that dealt with the kinds of issues an implied license was designed for and and an earlier post by blogger Eric Berlin. [...]

]]> By: Bitchmeme Recap: What Happens on Shyftr, Stays on Shyftr « I’m Not Actually a Geek http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/12/an-argument-against-shyftr-and-communities-built-around-full-text-rss-feeds/comment-page-1/#comment-933 Bitchmeme Recap: What Happens on Shyftr, Stays on Shyftr « I’m Not Actually a Geek Mon, 14 Apr 2008 07:02:14 +0000 http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/12/an-argument-against-shyftr-and-communities-built-around-full-text-rss-feeds/#comment-933 [...] spark: Louis Gray (who else?) wrote about Eric Berlin’s concern over the comments that had accrued on Shyftr, not his own site. A legitimate beef, and one that [...] [...] spark: Louis Gray (who else?) wrote about Eric Berlin’s concern over the comments that had accrued on Shyftr, not his own site. A legitimate beef, and one that [...]

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